One of my good mates has a Masters in Fine Art and went to Germany last year to build a house out of old plastic bottles? He got given £4k for expenses!!!!

Know what your saying Jonah, some art is fucking pathetic.

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Strange one really. i did a fine art degree BA at Sheffield. Came out with a 2.1. For a bit i lived and breathed it. Now i just see it as a playground for the middle-class. Its become all about context, and works created in relation to art discourse. since Duchamp exhibition the famous R.Mutt Urinal (will post a pic if needed) but i'm sure you've seen it. just a urinal that he's signed. it pretty much threw the whole shit up in the air. Now in my opinion we have High art (for the shithead middle/upper-classes with loads of money) and 'other artists' who make pictures you'll want to put on your wall, decorative but maybe no underlying substance. Rant over... Sorry Jonah.

no mate you could give them one. i loved it but my argument was exactly yours. A dude called Allan Karpow wrote a book called 'blurring art and life'. He goes to describe the action of him brushing his teeth is a artistic act? too much time on his hands. Its just a way at looking at the world mate. like i said, thats all well and good if your a fucking millionaire and want to own something that no-one else has got but some of us have to go to work and earn a fucking living. i got friends who are on it at the moment, selling sculptures to rich london pricks for £4000. All good, but not for me.

picasso said once: Art is the art to sell something. (something like this) you can do what you want, you just need a fucker to buy it

Thom tell them about your oranges and leaf art project which you made up on way to uni, cause you didnt do your homework
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A mate of mine got a first from the Slade in London on the back of a door he found in a skip on the way in. He spent 3 years necking pills and tabs (88-91) and did absolutely nothing. When they asked him what was going on with the door, Alex said............ well, what do YOU thinks going on?.. and bingo.. first. He is a senior account manager at saatchi and saatchi now and does ching like its still the late 80's...

[quote="woll69"]A mate of mine got a first from the Slade in London on the back of a door he found in a skip on the way in. He spent 3 years necking pills and tabs (88-91) and did absolutely nothing. When they asked him what was going on with the door, Alex said............ well, what do YOU thinks going on?.. and bingo.. first. He is a senior account manager at saatchi and saatchi now and does ching like its still the late 80's... [/quote]

Quality

I can not really comment so much as I am a student. However, I think planning and property development will set me up nicely for the real world where I will actually use it.

In Scotland the government pay for our University fees and it sickens me that the government are paying money for a lot of pretentious wannabe hipsters to go to classes for 2 hours a week to scribble. They should just do it in their bedroom for fucking free!

I'm a big fan of modern art/art in general - love that galleries in this country are free and that anyone can go and have a look around even if they know SFA about form, content etc but got to agree that a lot of art students these days produce utter pish. I was working for a temp firm and one of the jobs I had was to go and do voiceovers for students at goldsmiths' product design department. The brief was products to help the unemployed (how wank is that?!) and some of the stuff they made was really ridiculous - mirrors which raised self esteem etc (I'm not joking!). Worst thing was I was getting paid to do the voiceovers on their videos when there were loads of bods just standing around doing nothing - wouldn't it be better to just get other students to do it for free?

Uni for graphic arts (advertising)... I've seen some right fucking doodling my 1 yr old could do in some of the art displayed around campus.

As long someone likes it.. I guess you can call it art. One of my favourite artists did work a blind kid without arms could do: