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I think Celtic & Rangers in the PL would create such a buzz , whenever these two come to the Bridge they bring thousands - friendly against Celtic they must have had 4,000 .. I would love to go up to Celtic to watch Chelsea , so think it would be great if they came into our Leagues ..
better than the miserly amount Everton , Wigan , or Sunderland usually bring - and sit in silence ..

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lower your fucking prices and we.d bring more, we sell out most other away ends.yous just take the piss.
bit like our place, i could name most of the teams in the epl that bring piss poor support and sit in silence.

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If Rangers fold then the rest of Scottish football is fucked as well. No TV company or sponsors are going to pay to watch Celtic win the league by 20 points every year.

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as opposed to both of them being 20/30 point ahead of every other club

what no one gets is, supporters of every other club outwith the bigot brothers dont give a fuck, we have had the life sucked out of us by the big two, everyone starts the season hoping to get third place, whats the point. No tv money big deal we cut our cloth to suit, wether were paying 200PW or 2000pw if the league is competetive then folks will still go along to watch their team. sky has killed football anyway


as things stand steven davis and the goalkeeper chap get roughly in a week what the entire aberdeen matchday squad get in a month and theyre probably the 2nd/3rd best paid team after the oldfirm. so no one has much sympathy for a club overspending a million + a month

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Couldn't agree more.

I'm sure some clubs like Aberdeen are guilty of overspending in the past as well giving players too much money and don't think they are in a very healthy state financially are they? Think the last I heard they are in around 12 million debt?
Same as killie and hearts maybe in up to around 32 million?
Now as I've said before I hope if rangers are liquidated we just accept the delegation to div 3 and start again. I am not looking for an argument about whether Scottish football will survive or not as I'm sure in principal it will but what I think a
Lot of fans etc outwith people involved in football don't grasp especially teams not including Celtic is that there clubs rely heavily on tv revenue and sponsorship that will be drastically reduced if rangers drop out the spl.
My fear is if rangers go it will then have a domino effect on others.
I am not trying to say an spl cannot exist without rangers, far from it as I think without the old firm it could thrive all I'm saying is at this point there are too many clubs with debt now who rely on that money. Cast your mind back to the settanta debacle. If espn and sky hadn't stepped back in a lot of clubs would have been fucked.
As it stands I think st mirren are possibly the only team who are in the black.
It is a frightening prospect to me and should be a sobering thought to many.

Scottish football is shit anyway.

Get it right up ye

Its still better than the Aussie Rules rubbish i have to put up with over here.

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I'm sure some clubs like Aberdeen are guilty of overspending in the past as well giving players too much money and don't think they are in a very healthy state financially are they? Think the last I heard they are in around 12 million debt?

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Obviously the difference being that Aberdeen's £10m debt is manageable & guaranteed by our chairman who happens to be one of the wealthiest company owners in Scotland.
If the bank pulls the plug - as guaranteur, he will be liable for the debt. Stewart Milne was actually one of the first Chairmen to identify that the spending & high salaries couldn't continue and was slated from pillar to post by our own supporters for doing something about it. When Aberdeen move to their new stadium they will be debt free as St Mirren are.


There are only 2 culpripts for the state of Scottish football - David Murray & Graeme Souness, who with their cavalier spending (money they didn't have we have now found out!!) forced the smaller clubs into debt trying to play catch up.

I won't bat an eyelid if they fold & i'm not particulary sorry for anyone contected to the club if they do. I'm sure the feeling would be mutual if the shoe was on the other foot.

You haven't really read my post. I'm not looking for sympathy. I couldn't really give a fuck about any other club in Scotland bar st mirren as my business gets a boost from them every home game. What I am saying is if rangers go down the tubes then it is going to have a knock on effect to other clubs. At the end of the day your chairman is a business man and I highly doubt he will be stupid enough to throw good money after bad if Scottish football ends up on a par with the league of Ireland.
Can you also explain your new stadium plans to me? Genuinely interested as st mirrens was a real slice of luck that is not widely loved but was necessary to keep the club afloat. Is it being done on similar terms?

the scottish first, second and third divisions tick along just fine in their own little ways without a rangers and celtic and no TV deal what so ever, SPL will just have to do the same.

Brian Kennedy who's one of the interested parties is loaded as fuck! know his son really well..played Rugby with him..and trained at his house in his private gym..decent lads..

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Can you also explain your new stadium plans to me? Genuinely interested as st mirrens was a real slice of luck that is not widely loved but was necessary to keep the club afloat. Is it being done on similar terms?

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Moving to a new stadium will wipe out the clubs debt by selling the club owned land for redevelopment (hundreds and hundreds of flats in a decent location from a developers perspective).

The new stadium will be slightly bigger in capacity and very modern in comparison to Pittodrie (where re-development is not possible due to to the age of the ground). It will be located in the south of the city at Loriston Loch, near Cove Bay. We will be there for 2013/14... Debt free!

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Can you also explain your new stadium plans to me? Genuinely interested as st mirrens was a real slice of luck that is not widely loved but was necessary to keep the club afloat. Is it being done on similar terms?

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Moving to a new stadium will wipe out the clubs debt by selling the club owned land for redevelopment (hundreds and hundreds of flats in a decent location from a developers perspective).

The new stadium will be slightly bigger in capacity and very modern in comparison to Pittodrie (where re-development is not possible due to to the age of the ground). It will be located in the suth of the city at Loriston Loch, near Cove Bay. We will be there for 2013/14... Debt free!

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Will the new place be as cold as Pittodrie?

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Can you also explain your new stadium plans to me? Genuinely interested as st mirrens was a real slice of luck that is not widely loved but was necessary to keep the club afloat. Is it being done on similar terms?

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Moving to a new stadium will wipe out the clubs debt by selling the club owned land for redevelopment (hundreds and hundreds of flats in a decent location from a developers perspective).

The new stadium will be slightly bigger in capacity and very modern in comparison to Pittodrie (where re-development is not possible due to to the age of the ground). It will be located in the suth of the city at Loriston Loch, near Cove Bay. We will be there for 2013/14... Debt free!

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Will the new place be as cold as Pittodrie?

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You Southern fairy!!

Just wondered if like st mirren there was already a buyer in place who would also pay for the building of the new stadium

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Just wondered if like st mirren there was already a buyer in place who would also pay for the building of the new stadium

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Stewart Milne along with a partner are the most probable buyers, although offers are being received from others. They will also probably buy the site of Cove Rangers FC for house building. Cove Rangers will move alongside the new stadium with a small 1500 capacity ground.

All in all a good bit of business for all involved

I don't have a problem with Rangers or Celtic coming into English football. But if they want to they have to be willing to start at the very very bottom. If my club folds and reforms will we have to start at the very bottom. It's only fair.

I don't want to read 7 pages to check but am I the only who thought this was about Power Rangers going into admin?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/...inalising-offer

Consortium putting in a bid for Rangers

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I think Celtic & Rangers in the PL would create such a buzz , whenever these two come to the Bridge they bring thousands - friendly against Celtic they must have had 4,000 .. I would love to go up to Celtic to watch Chelsea , so think it would be great if they came into our Leagues ..
better than the miserly amount Everton , Wigan , or Sunderland usually bring - and sit in silence ..

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We only travel to big games

really ?
are Everton ever involved in big games ?

:)

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11788/7582997/Blue-Knights-finalising-offer

Consortium putting in a bid for Rangers

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Out of the frying pan & into the fire - Ticketus shitting their pants that Rangers go into liquidation.